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Watch Philip Wollen's address to the St James Ethics Centre and the Wheeler Centre debate - let us know in the comments what you think. "If slaughterhouses had glass walls" - watch the whole debate at http://wheelercentre.com/videos/video/intelligence-squared-animals-should-be-off-the-menu/ The following is part of a transcript from http://wheelercentre.com/dailies/post/22b6c7dc3f5e/ summarising the debate. While Peter Singer was the primary crowd-puller for the evening, it was Philip Wollen, a former vice president of Citibank turned founder of the Kindness Trust, who attracted a partial standing ovation on the night, with his passionate, emotive arguments. 'Animals must be off the menu because tonight they are screaming in terror in slaughterhouses,' he began, going on to detail what he witnessed when he visited slaughterhouses in his former life; an experience that changed him forever. 'In our capacity to suffer, a dog is a pig is a bear ... is a boy,' he thundered. Though he cited a litany of damning statistics (by 2048, all our fisheries will be dead; 10,000 species are wiped out every year because of one -- us), he did find some hope in the way the internet enables people to come together to address causes. 'Ten years ago, Twitter was a bird sound and www was a stuck keyboard.' He concluded darkly: 'Animals are not just other species, they are other nations, and we murder them at our peril. If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we wouldn't be having this debate tonight.'